Will County Capital Improvements Committee met March 6.
Here is the minutes provided by the Committee:
I. Call To Order / Roll Call
Chair Ray Tuminello called the meeting to order at 11:10 am
Attendee Name; Title; Status; Arrived:
Ray Tuminello; Chair; Present
Mike Fricilone; Vice Chair; Present
Gloria Dollinger; Member; Present
Gretchen Fritz; Member; Present
Charles E. Maher; Member; Absent
Donald A. Moran; Member; Present
Annette Parker; Member; Present
Beth Rice; Member; Present
Denise E. Winfrey; Member; Absent
Also Present: J. Moustis, H. Brooks, R. Freitag and M. Johannsen.
Present from State's Attorney's Office: M. Tatroe.
II. Pledge Of Allegiance To The Flag
Mr. Joel Van Essen led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
III. Approval Of Minutes
1. WC Capital Improvements Committee - Regular Meeting - Feb 6, 2018 11:00 am
Result: Approved [Unanimous]
Mover: Donald A. Moran, Member
Seconder: Gretchen Fritz, Member
Ayes: Tuminello, Fricilone, Dollinger, Fritz, Moran, Parker, Rice
Absent: Maher, Winfrey
2. WC Capital Improvements Committee - Regular Meeting - Feb 20, 2018 9:30 am
Result: Approved [Unanimous]
Mover: Donald A. Moran, Member
Seconder: Gloria Dollinger, Member
Ayes: Tuminello, Fricilone, Dollinger, Fritz, Moran, Parker, Rice
Absent: Maher, Winfrey
IV. Old Business
1. Update from Courthouse Delivery Teams (Wight, Gilbane & Farnsworth)
(Discussion) Mr. David Lesniak reviewed the attached Project Status. Recommendations for Bid Packages #4 and #4B will be presented at the March 20th meeting.
Mr. Moustis asked are you happy with the bids received? Are they competitive? Are there any concerns?
Mr. Lesniak responded all of the bids we reviewed have the complete scope. There were surprises in some of the packages. Problems we have had with the trades is they were unable to bond, due to the size. The millwork was an $11 million package and some could not bond.
Mr. Tuminello asked do you know how many individuals used your outreach?
Mr. Lesniak indicated he would provide that at the next meeting.
Mr. Tuminello stated the outreach was a way to ensure smaller companies could work with larger companies and get bonding. We knew that was an issue for some subcontractors.
Mr. Moustis asked when you feel bonding will be an issue, do you ever put other programs into effect to mitigates some of that problem? Are there other ways to approach bonding issues, if it is so large we will not get many responses? We need bonding, but I am concerned we are not getting competitive bidding. If there was some way to mitigate the bonding would there be more savings from more competitive bids that would give some relief to the bonding?
Mr. Tkac stated steps were taken to offset that so smaller, locally based contractors could bid on the work. There are two types of bonds requirements; bid and performance bond. The performance bond was addressed within the Contractor Controlled Insurance Program (CCIP) enacted as part of this project. The performance bond requirement is automatic for any trade contractor, awarded a contract. The bid bond, by law, has to be submitted as 10% of the bid or a bond from a bonding company. We don’t have control over that and have not felt the bid bond was problematic. Usually you see more problems or difficulty in obtaining performance bonds for smaller trade contractors. We took some of the larger trades and split them into smaller packages. For example, we did an electrical base building package and an electrical build out package. That was split in two and we did get a Will County based trade contractor with a substantial contract for the electrical work as part of the non-base building or interior buildout. We did the same with mechanical and millwork. The millwork was broken out into courthouse millwork and general millwork and those measures were taken before the bid process began.
Mr. Brooks stated on an $11 million contract, bonding is an issue and you mentioned breaking it down into two packages, but breaking it down to three or four packages could be a problem. What type of problems do you expect when you make it more palatable?
Mr. Lesniak replied millwork is a sensitive package, because a lot of it is aesthetic. If you have three or four different millworkers trying to match the same finish and you may end up close, but they are not the same. Because of aesthetic problems in terms of look, splitting it up could be something even the architect would not want.
Mr. Moran stated I have a concern with a package of this size, $11 million, there are only two bidders that submitted good bids. You mentioned one could not get a bid bond for the $1.1 million. Do we know if they were able to get a performance bond for the job?
Mr. Lesniak responded I don’t know, because they dropped out of the main package for the courtrooms, they are bidding the general millwork package, because they have the ability to do that.
Mr. Moran stated on the $11 million millwork package we had two bidders and the successful bidder is a Canadian company.
Mr. Moustis clarified the bid bond is required by state statute and can be a bid bond issued by an insurance company, it does not have to be a cash bond. How long do we hold on to the bid bond?
Mr. Tkac replied it is released once the contract is awarded by this Committee.
Mr. Fricilone stated it was unfortunate the millwork house doing the estimations for it could not qualify for the bond.
Mr. Dwyer stated we are focused on the submittals. Steel is a critical path item we are working hard on steel submittals and glazing. The curtain wall is a big one and we have a good system in terms of getting ahead of things by having meetings with the trades and fabricators to be proactive versus them putting together a submittal that is off, to expedite that work. We continue to help with bid scope reviews for the last package. We are ready to look at 4B as they come in. We decided to submit your project for an AIA Justice Facilities Review Award. Many times it is done after the project is completed, but we had a discussion with our team and we feel your project has a lot going for it in terms of the award submittal. It will have a great impact on the downtown Joliet area. It is a great story of improving the quality and operations for the courthouse. It is a national award and there is a lot of competition. We will keep you posted.
Mr. Tkac asked Mr. Dwyer for an update on the LEED certification for the project.
Mr. Dwyer stated usually the LEED submittal is done when the job is completed. There is an approach to submit initially for the design credits. They break the program into certain credits based on design. If the HVAC design is planned for a certain level of efficiency and the materials selected, it can be submitted in earlier design phases. We are in the mist of compiling all of the data for the design phase. We have good confidence we will get the credits we submitted for, but it is a rigorous review process. Occasionally, they will come back with questions and it gives us a feel for how we are going. You have the design credits in the bank so when the job is completed you submit for the follow-up review on the construction phase, you have an idea where you stand in terms of your overall credit projections. We are a couple of months out for making the submittal, but we are tracking to get that in soon, while we are in construction.
Mr. Moustis asked do we have anything in this plan for solar or wind energy?
Mr. Dwyer replied not the more advanced strategies. We looked at rainwater harvesting for irrigation. We took an alternate bid for that, but did not pursue wind or solar on the project.
Mr. Moustis stated there is potentially money in the solid waste funds and maybe there is funding to look at some solar or wind generation. Should there be further discussion to incorporate some alternative energy sources? I would also like to see what resources are available through our solid waste program.
Mr. Fricilone stated we should get Ms. Bluemer involved, she can also give us advice on the rebates and what would help us get even more.
Mr. Dwyer stated early on there was a concern on whether the budget could support something added. Things have trended in a good direction on budget and there is a potential. I am not sure wind would be a good option, but solar is a possibility because we are still in the scope review phase of the steel. We would be looking at something on the roof of the high building. There is a structural impact, I think it is something we could look at.
Ms. Bluemer added on the annex portion of the courthouse, there will be the green roof. I don’t know what roof top area is occupied on the taller portion of the facility. We have to see what is feasible.
Mr. Tkac added there is approximately 25,000 square feet of space on the tower roof.
Mr. Dwyer added the area is clean, because the mechanicals are inside the penthouse.
Mr. Jim Rickert stated we are reviewing equipment, submittals and shop drawings in parallel with Wight. Part of that is sharing our comments and getting feedback from Mr. Van Essen on the major components; the chillers and boilers to make sure they don’t have issues with the equipment selected.
Mr. Tuminello announced one lane of Jefferson Street will be closed between 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. for the demolition of the First Midwest Building.
Mr. Moran stated we have talked about having the City Manager for Joliet come to our meetings so there is coordination between us and the City. I notice he is not here.
Gilbane Project Status March 6, 2018 (Handout)
2. Update from Health Department Team (Kluber)
(Discussion) Mr. Tuminello stated there will be a discussion at the Finance Committee Meeting in April to set the budget for the Health Department moving forward.
Mr. Tkac stated Kluber gave a presentation to this Committee on the program for the facility. This Committee provided direction to issue an RFQ for the design phase of the work. The RFQ is prepared and we are ready to proceed.
Mr. Mike Elliott stated we enjoyed the opportunity to work with the group to put together the initial work. We look forward to the opportunity to continue that work and refine the building through the design process.
Mr. Tuminello stated we look forward to getting the RFQ on the street and you will be considered for the design portion. It is important to get the RFQ on the street and listen to the proposals so we can make an educated decision based on who will design the Health Department. I want to thank Kluber, you have done an outstanding job.
Mr. Moustis stated this was about site selection, we don’t put restrictions on the programming. It becomes a big wish list for everything that could possibly be put in. We basically let the users drive the process. They put everything in they could possibly wish for. The Board process is very budget driven. Many times Mr. Dwyer told us we could not built the courthouse for that, but we did. We told them the budget and they showed us what we could get. We like to put what we think is not only a reasonable number, but a number we feel comes within the county’s finances. We have not done this for this building, other than throwing out some number. There was an estimate of budget numbers in Kluber’s work, based on the wish list. Those estimates tend to be fairly conservative. Going forward we need to say this is the budget we are looking at. Any design team selected, will have a real understanding we go from the programming stage to driving it down to a budget and then what stays within that programming. There will be advocates on both sides of why something has to stay and why something may have to come out. There will be a lot of debate. We have to come up with a budget based on the county’s finances and ability to pay. We still have some bonding ability, some was factored into our overall process when we did the bonding that we could pay for the bond. We have to see if the revenue streams identified are holding up. Some may be falling short, others doing better. Are there are additional bonding sources that can come through a Health Department revenue stream? We need to re- exam our whole financial situation, including how our revenue streams are holding up and our ability to do additional bonding, if we need to.
Mr. Fricilone stated in the early stages of the Public Safety Complex; the building was supposed to be a 120,000 sq. ft. building in the programming and the budget was between $50 and $60 million. The building is 65,000 sq. ft. at a cost of less than $32 million. We have to look at areas we can make even more efficient, and see if some operations we don’t need in that building. That is what we will do as we sit with the Health Department. The programming was done between Kluber and the Health Department. No one here had any input, which is good. Now the money factor comes in, are we going to have a $50 million or $20 million building? We will build what we can build to adequately support the Health Department.
Ms. Olenek asked what is the due date on the RFQ?
Mr. Tkac stated before the RFQ hits the street, I wanted to include the project budget amount, set by the Committee.
Mr. Tuminello stated the RFQ will be released after the April Finance Committee. From there, we will review the packets submitted and a Committee will be put together with representatives from the Health Department, County Board and Executive’s Office. We will listen to the presentations and make a decision. Once it is awarded we will grant the Executive’s Office the ability to negotiate a contract with the design team.
Ms. Olenek clarified the RFQ will hit the street in Mid-April with a 30 day response time.
Mr. Tuminello added we will have a meeting to drill down the candidates; then a final interview process on the ones selected.
V. Other Old Business
Mr. Tuminello stated we are continuing to move forward with design of the Animal Control Facility. We need to pick a construction team.
Mr. Dwyer stated our team has been working with Mr. Van Essen and Animal Control to work through that. We refined the program and are looking at options for the building layout and different arrangements on the site. We have been focused on trying get the program and layout of the building tied to a realistic budget. I think we are getting close on that. We have had a good dialog on getting the most efficiency out of the building, one that works functionally and is planned for long term use of the building, but still a budget conscience building. We are getting close and within a few weeks will have it ready to move forward.
Mr. Tuminello asked for an update on the site work.
Mr. Dwyer replied it is underway. We are trying to move that forward and we talked about accelerating the project and get the construction started ahead of the rest of the work. There is a good possibility we can make that happen. The site is tight in terms of buildable area. We are trying to fine tune the strategy around stormwater detention to minimize the footprint taken up by stormwater detention. That will allow us more latitude to have flexibility for the building, pavement and parking to fit more effectively on the site. We continue to work through that to maximize the site.
Mr. Tuminello asked has engineering determined if the EMA building is a potential?
Mr. Van Essen replied we have been working with Mr. Scott Creech on ways to do a hydrology study for the wetlands to maximize the existing detention area by raising it higher, and not need to build the other retention ponds. Doing that, would open up more land usage potentially for a future building footprint and something else could be put on the site.
Mr. Tkac added the garage on the Public Safety Complex is tracking n schedule and nearing substantial completion within 60 days.
VI. New Business
VII. Public Comment
Mr. Cornell Darden, Jr. stated I am a Board Member of the IL Black Chamber of Commerce, National Black Chamber of Commerce and the Chair of the local African- American Business Association of Joliet. Minority participation is an important issue to the black community and it should be an important issue to the entire community. Minority participation helps minorities participate in the economic process of our community, and that is an important thing. We are asking for a participation goals Resolution at the County level to ensure minority participation. There is so much talk about democracy and it makes me wonder why we call our great nation a democracy, when we pledge allegiance to the republic. I investigated that issue and found out in a democracy majority rules and a majority can easily trump the individual rights of the minority. As a minority that struck accord with me. I realized in this great country of ours, having a republic guarantees individual rights; and a republic is the constitution, which guarantees the individual rights of the minority, will not be trampled on by the majority. That makes me wonder how we have come to a point in 2018 where minority participation is not a goal of ours. This courthouse is just one issue, not the biggest issue. We signed a PLA agreement with the unions, and we did not think about minority participation beforehand and, we don’t want to come in at the end of the project and enforce that. We want something in place so anytime there is procurement in the county, we have a minority goals in place and minorities are at the table. Usually, we are not at the table, we are on the dinner plate. We want to ensure that doesn’t happen. When I think about this great county, I think about the great people of this county, minorities play a huge role in it. There is no discrimination in paying taxes. Minorities are taxpayers, but we have been left out of opportunities to participate. When it comes to paying taxes I think of the Boston Tea Party, “No Taxation without Representation”. For minorities in the community, minority business owners, and minority contractors to not be able to participate but be forced to pay taxes, my new slogan is “No Taxation without Participation”.
Mr. George Peterson stated I have seen a lot of people coming in and out of the community, I have worked very hard in. I fought on multiple fronts for multiple organizations. I served this country is the U.S. Navy, and took a pledge to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution more times than most people have ever thought about doing. I have been shot at, stabbed and I don’t care, because I know what that flag and this great republic represents. I have held elected office and took that same oath, along with the oath for the State of Illinois. Within the Illinois and U.S. Constitutions there are provisions to ensure that all U.S. citizen’s rights are upheld. One of the things I look at when I attend Board Members and I am asking the folks we helped get elected into these positions, what are we doing to make sure all citizens are being properly represented? That we are looking out for the U.S. Constitution, the State Constitution and we are standing up to the principals, morals and values we hold dear. That is making sure everyone who is paying taxes has a stake. I pay taxes, I was a small business owner in Will County, until a larger company purchased my business, one of locations is here in Will County. I am partially in trucking, we move a lot of product across the Will County highways, the fees are being raised and there is talk of turning I-80 and I-55 into a tollway. I think about that every time we have to put more money on the credit card to pay the tolls. I look at the capital funds coming in for the roadway projects, and with all the black American’s living in Will County, how many of them are participating in the actual removal of the debris, the construction or the purchasing of any projects that come up. I am not always looking for Title 6 of the Constitution to be the guidelines for those we elected; I am looking for the right thing to be done by those we elected. The State has a provision, signed into law by Governor Rauner and it will possibly help to alleviate some of the issues when we are looking at the bonding on some of the projects. If you don’t have conversations with every stakeholder within the community a lot of that information is missed. I would like to make sure that regardless of what side of the aisle I might be representing or the individuals I am representing that good discussions are held, because it tends to clear the air on what needs to be done and what should be done. We know that is not always the same. In this case, no federal funds were utilized in the building of the courthouse and that is understandable. There are federal funds used throughout this county for multiple projects. Using Title 6 is not something we want to do in order to bring forth an issue; we would rather have this conversation. The next time a contract is coming up; the question comes up how thoroughly have we done our job and making sure our bidding process was readily available or put out to the general public, if nothing else to the County itself to ensure those business owners within the County and those paying the taxes, carrying the tax burden within the county are properly represented. The bidding process for government jobs has too many regulations and takes too much time and effort. We tend to want to get behind the rules and regulations and stifle conversation. If you stifle the conversation, there cannot be a relationship. We know in the business community what helps grow businesses are those relationships. It is who you know in the construction field. It is who you know in the procurement department; who do you know that handles lightbulbs and solar panels. If you are not building a relationship with everybody who has a stake hold within your jurisdiction, I can’t help but ask, what are we doing?
Mr. Tuminello stated one of the things I struggled with during Gilbane’s first outreach program, was one African-American showed up. It was held at 3:00 p.m. in the Board Room. After the meeting, I told Ms. Winfrey I am very disappointed in the representation of minorities at this outreach, what are we doing wrong. Her exact words were; I believe a lot of the African- American community works until 5:00 p.m. and we need to push the meetings later. Two subsequent meetings were held at 6:00 p.m. to bring out the participation. I asked Mr. Brooks to reach out to the local churches. How do we do it? I will ask you, when we went out, when we made the meetings later and moved the locations we still have very few minority individuals show up. How do we encourage the minority community to come out? I believe we have a very level playing field, we can only level the playing field so much, we have a fiduciary duty to the residents and taxpayers of Will County and the individuals that bid. If you are not coming to the outreach meetings, you are not bidding or you are not signing up for the outreach program to get paired up, I don’t know what else we can do.
Mr. Moustis stated we go through the outreach programs because many of the contracts are tough for a lot of people to bid and probably tough for the minority community as well. We do tell and encourage our CM and subs to hire minority contractors and other small businesses. We actually ask them to look at Will County businesses. It is a more complex issues. We have contractors in the bidding process and we have workforce issues or hiring minorities as part of the workforce. You deal with contractors inside and outside the county. We have initiatives that go beyond the bidding processes. I like to know if we are doing a good job and will frequently ask how we are doing.
Mr. Darden stated when we think about the outreach programs on this particular project and are asked why weren’t minorities at the table, why didn’t they bid on the projects; it hurts me when those questions are asked as we are putting the oneness on the minority community to get the County to do the right thing. The right thing is a Resolution to ensure participation to put the oneness on the minority community, who we know are not participating. If we were to do a disparity study, we would see horrible number in black participation in the County. That line of questioning sends us into a circle and does not address our needs as a minority community. It backs us up throughout this nation. Many counties have come into the 21st century with a Resolution to ensure participation in the beginning and not on the backend, not individual outreach programs. In this situation, there was a protest at the courthouse last week. Many jobs in this County end in protests. That strategy could only be piecemeal and every time there is outreach programs there are protests and comments on the backend trying to get a contract at the last minute. Do you really want to make an effort to have minority participation? If you can answer yes, then a Resolution is the way to go.
Mr. Peterson stated many times when we are talking about participation, we are talking about engagement within those organizations that could bring us to the forefront, such as the African-American Association of Business. Building a relationship in that organization and not going to the churches. There is a fallacy if we want to reach out to the black community, we go to the local church. Not all of us go to church. If you want to talk to the business community, you go to where the business community is.
Mr. Tuminello stated we are moving forward with the Health Department and Animal Control, there will be other bidding opportunities and we should be working together to make sure your members are aware.
Mr. Darden stated it should be shared. All the oneness should not be on you. That is why we are coming in with these Resolutions. We want to build a relationship with the County and City and come in to be a part of our organizations as well. There is a reason we created these organizations to pool in the resources. The City of Chicago, is tearing down many schools, but there is little to zero participation from the African-American community. The reason why, the relationships going on. What happened was $85 million for the reconstruction of those schools is not being shared inside the community, because of relationships. That is why I am here today, to help bridge that gap.
Mr. Tuminello stated I asked Gilbane to provide me a snap shot at 3:00 p.m. on Friday of the workers. There were 35 individuals on the jobsite; 22.8% were MB or WB, there were 4 females for 11.4% of the workforce and 4 minorities for 11.4% of the workforce. Gilbane will be providing me updates as we move forward. We invested all this time in the outreach meetings, to try to get individuals to participate and get a level playing field throughout the entire county. That is why I got involved when I heard there was a protest.
Mr. Darden stated we are not antiunion, we do want to work with the unions as well.
Mr. Fricilone left at this juncture.
Mr. Brooks stated one of the reasons you don’t like government, is because we are government and there is a process. You mentioned a Resolution, but we already have a PLA in place, which is an agreement. How would a Resolution affect the PLA?
Mrs. Tatroe replied I would have to review the Resolution. I believe everyone is aware, quotas are not legal, so hard quotas are not an option. That does not mean goals and objectives cannot be set.
Mr. Darden stated I would like to respond to the comment quotas are not legal. When you are dealing with a protected class of individuals, there are situations where that protected class can have some type of intense scrutiny on their behalf. We saw that when Governor Rauner passed an Executive Order to release the Sheltered Market contract. The Sheltered Market contracts are over $1 billion in state funds only minority businesses can bid on. To talk about a quota or set aside being illegal, I don’t think we understand the issue when it comes to minority participation. Saying a quota is illegal is really disparaging our needs and what we are trying to do. The first Sheltered Market contract was released last year and a minority firm from our organization received the benefit of that.
Ms. Freitag stated our Board takes advice from the State’s Attorney’s Office. If she is able to look at the Resolution, the Board would most definitely take a look at it. They do follow case law and there is present case law. There is a Cook County case maybe that is different than your Resolution. We would be open to look at anything and work with you.
Mr. Moustis stated we are interested in the community at large, but we are interested in the Will County community and promoting within Will County. Where we have the most impact is making sure the workforce is properly hired, we are giving a piece of the pie to everyone we can. When it comes to contracting and contractors, it becomes a fairly narrow field. The public process is a process of exclusion not inclusion, because of the requirements, many people are squeezed out and only the wealthiest contractors can bid these jobs. We broke the packages down as far as we could. Sometimes there are union issues. We make an effort of inclusion where we can and the best we can. We have done Proclamations stating that fact, we have never done a binding Resolution. We put pressure on our construction manager and the successful bidders to be inclusive, including hiring small companies. Because of the public bidding process, that is where we have the most success. Not necessarily in the bidding process, but we tell the successful bidders they need to hire local subcontractors, not just workers. I believe that is where we can continue to work. There are a number of ways of having success. The public bidding process is a tough one to have success in. I absolutely think you should be at the table, come and talk to us. The County Board does not sit behind a closed office, we are the transparent, very public portion of county government. I am encouraging you to continue a dialog with us. Let’s talk about all the ways we can have successes. Sometimes we need to talk about the different components and segments of minority community. It is not just women, black, Hispanics and Asians, within that group are they getting a good shake? It is more complicated sometimes than we want to put out there. We are open all the time. Let’s continue to work together and continue to make it better for more people to participate.
Mr. Moustis left at this juncture.
Mr. Willie Sellers stated one of the problems we have is building a relationship with the union. That is a good place for us to start. I am not here to fight with the union, but we want to be inclusive. I was on the job, I am a member of Local 786 and I was run off the job. We have the right union people here today to start a dialog on how we are going to make this work in our community.
Mr. Tuminello stated the issue you have is between you and the union. Typically, the county does not get involved in that process.
Mr. James Foster, owner of New Frontier Electrical stated we are an electrical contracting firm in the City of Joliet. We are the only African-American union firm in the Local. I hear a lot about minority participation. In Will County and Joliet it seems to be something not widely discussed. I have been in the electrical industry for 30 years, and have been a union contractor for 10 years and 90% of my work has been completed in the City of Chicago. It is because of the goals set forth on different projects, the certification and also because the City of Chicago recognizes the struggles a minority business has. I hear the issues with even larger companies trying to get the $11 million millwork bid. In my discipline, electrical, I cannot compete with a larger contractor. When the price of copper goes down, he has a warehouse full. I welcome the dialog with you and I look forward to it, so you can understand what small businesses go through and we can work together to bring this to a peaceful close. Peaceful meaning inclusion for all of us. Many of us employ people in our communities, which has a trickledown effect throughout the County. It is a proven fact that when people of a certain ethnic group see people that look like themselves working in the community, it has a positive effect. We are all here today because we care about Will County, we live in Will County and we want the best for Will County. Moving forward we just want positive dialog.
Mr. Tom White, Three Rivers Alliance stated we do oversee the PLA. I would like to say the PLA has been adhered to by the County. It is a simple document and it does not get into minority quotas, it does not get into contracting requirements. It says it will be a union project and in return there will be no strikes or walkouts. I have been to this Board on numerous occasions to discuss, getting larger packages broken down. Mr. Moustis and I have talked about this for over 10 years. I know the County tries where they can to break it down. There are certain projects that cannot be done. Somewhere there has to be a place to make room for subs. Many times they cannot bid the big stuff, but they do sub out. We see that at the courthouse now, there are subs that were not awarded contracts. There is a way to find room for everybody.
Mr. Tuminello added with a job of this magnitude there would be issues trying to pare down and break out packages.
Mr. White stated we don’t care what your color, if you can comply with the PLA, live up to your union standards and you are the low bidder or a subcontractor, you will have no problems with me.
Mr. Brooks asked was the PLA language changed in 2000 or 2001?
Mr. White replied there was a small change in 2008. Some of the contractors had a hard time with some of the language, talking about the other outside agreements. We moved back to the original document, which the County signed and was in place for 25 years as it is.
VIII. Chairman's Report / Announcements
Mr. Tuminello shared the award the Board received from the Contractors Association of Will and Grundy Counties.
IX. Executive Session
X. Adjournment
1. Motion to Adjourn at 12:25 pm
Result: Approved [Unanimous]
Mover: Donald A. Moran, Member
Seconder: Beth Rice, Member
Ayes: Tuminello, Dollinger, Fritz, Moran, Parker, Rice
Absent: Maher, Winfrey
Left Meeting: Fricilone
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