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Will County Historic Preservation Commission met March 3

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Will County Historic Preservation Commission met March 3.

Here is the minutes provided by the commission:

1. CALL TO ORDER

Chairwoman Sandy Vasko called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM

Attendee Name

Title

Status

Arrived

Curt Paddock

Present

Sandy Vasko

Chairwoman

Present

Daniel Seggebruch

Vice-Chairman

Present

Ann Marie Nagel

Secretary

Absent

Matt Galik

Present

Judy Panozzo

Present

William McCollum

Present

John Kiefner

Present

Also present were Lisa Napoles, Janine Farrell, and Kris Mazon from the Will County Land Use Department. Phil Mock was present from the Will County State's Attorney's Office. Colleen Novander was present from the Forest Preserve District of Will County.

2. ROLL CALL - ESTABLISHMENT OF A QUORUM

A quorum was established.

3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA

1. Approval Of Agenda

Motion approved unanimously, 7-0. Nagel was absent.

RESULT: APPROVED [UNANIMOUS]

MOVER: John Kiefner

SECONDER: William McCollum

AYES: Paddock, Vasko, Seggebruch, Galik, Panozzo, McCollum, Kiefner

ABSENT: Nagel

4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

*For information about this agenda or if any ADA assistance is needed, please contact staff at the Will County Land Use Department at (815) 774-7902.

1. Historic Preservation Commission - Regular Meeting - Feb 3, 2021 7:00 PM

Motion approved unanimously, 7-0, with no corrections or additions. Nagel was absent.

RESULT: APPROVED [UNANIMOUS]

MOVER: Daniel Seggebruch, Vice-Chairman

SECONDER: Matt Galik

AYES: Paddock, Vasko, Seggebruch, Galik, Panozzo, McCollum, Kiefner

ABSENT: Nagel

5. PUBLIC COMMENTS

6. CHAIR'S REPORT

Vasko talked about the Union Burial Society Cemetery, which is not in the Frankfort Rural Structure Survey. The Preservation Commission cannot accept or raise funds since Will County is not a Home Rule. The Will County Historical Society has started a GoFundMe account and it has $380 in it already. Frankfort Tree Service came up with some proposals to get it cheaper. They agreed to take 5% off the top and they will also rebate some things like permits and fees. The Farmers Weekly Newspaper has an article about it with all the photos. The Frankfort Preservation Commission/Historical Society is meeting tonight and will let me know the extent of help that they can give us.

7. STAFF'S REPORT

Napoles indicated that Staff met with the Reps from Esri, in regards to the app to see what they could do with the GIS information that they already have. We found out we could make a map of points of interest with routes marked, additional photos, narratives, and historical information for about $500 per year above what we are already paying them. This would be a quicker and less expensive option than doing a free standing app. This is also something that could be easily updated and managed by Staff. We could apply for a grant through Landmarks Illinois, but if we don't get the grant, the low cost is nothing that would hold us back. This is a web page that could be optimized for mobile viewing. The interested party would go onto our existing website and link to it through there.

Discussion took place about the problems with getting to our existing website.

Paddock stated that if you enter “Will County Landmark Program” into your browser, it will take you right where you would need to be.

Farrell suggested having another conversation with Mike Shay from our IT Department and come back next meeting with an update.

Napoles indicated we received an invitation from the Illinois Department of

Transportation to comment on a proposed project for I-55 and Lorenzo Road. Staff is preparing our response and plans on mailing it off tomorrow. Once we get more information about the scope of the project, we will have more information to report.

Farrell talked about Kendall County previously stating they were looking to do a roundtable with municipalities within their borders to talk about Preservation. Jayne from the City of Joliet brought this to my attention to see if Will County was looking to do something like this. I followed up with her after the event occurred and unfortunately, she was not able to attend. I did have a good conversation with her about an event, conference, or workshop of this nature. It’s something that we can re-visit in a couple of months to give ourselves time to think about it. What would an Agenda look like? What would our topics be?

8. OLD BUSINESS

1. Permit Fee Waiver Status Update

Farrell said we took this to the Land Use and Development Committee. This was very timely because we are looking at re-doing our Fee Schedule and the Building Codes. They were very receptive, but they did counter it by going for a flat fee. They said Staff is still reviewing these and there are still inspections that are being done as part of the Building Permit. Our flat fee Permits are currently $50. In 2020, we had three, a roof for $142.00, a full remodel for $544.00, and another roof for $162.00. Even with a $50.00 flat fee Permit, that is still half off of one of our cheapest Permits, which would be a roof. I would say maybe in the next 6 months, this would be changed on the Fee Schedule.

Discussion took place and the Commission decided to go ahead and pursue the $50.00 flat fee.

Farrell will keep everyone updated. It is probably a few months out before this language would be going for approval.

9. NEW BUSINESS

1. Discussion of 2021 goal "racial/social justice landmark evaluation"

Vasko asked Paddock to present the topic.

Paddock was not prepared and felt uncomfortable, so he left the meeting.

Vasko presented the topic and said that people across the nation are reviewing things and feels that we need to review our landmarks. This would entail discussion of them, the description of them, and anything that we put out about them. We previously talked about who was to do this work, who was to make this decision, and how would this be done.

Farrell stated this is a new “hot” topic. There’s no guidance from anyone on what to do and how to do it. Some municipalities are de-listing sites. You’ve seen that statues are being taken down. There’s no textbook example of what we should be doing. This is on the list of goals so we can talk about it and decide how we want to treat it.

Discussion took place. Seggebruch said “racial justice” is a broad topic.

Vasko stated that we do have underground railroads, which took place in rural areas and maybe that is the way to go.

2. Draft FY2022 Budget

Farrell indicated it is budget planning time.

As far as the Preservation Plan update, the CLG grant will span two of our Fiscal Years, so we are putting funds on for both fiscal years. We haven't heard anything yet on the grant. The deadline was mid-February and Staff is not expecting any kind of notification at least until the end of this month.

The next item is the annual maintenance for the app. When we were doing some research on this, we found that to have a consultant come in, it would be around $2,000 a year for a maintenance fee. If we go the route that we were discussing tonight, it would only be $500, so we can make that adjustment.

Hosting a local workshop is something that you had on your budget for this current Fiscal Year, but due to COVID, we decided to not move forward with it so I’m putting it back onto next Fiscal Year.

The CLG grant is going off of what we were discussing. Jayne, at the City of Joliet, mentioned about going for the National Trust Underrepresented Community Grant, but they decided to go for a different grant proposal related to the Joliet Prison. It’s not something that they’re entirely giving up. We discussed and thought, if our respective Commissions were supportive of it, for next year’s CLG grant, to put forward a proposal to document and survey sites of underrepresented communities. This would give us an idea of what’s out there. This is something for consideration. I really don’t know how much this would cost.

Our final two line items here are the normal every day expenses, which is the same from this past year. Then, if we’re able to attend conferences in person, I put that back in.

These are things from past meetings and projects that you would like to work on that I’ve heard mentioned.

Discussion took place between the Commissioners.

Seggebruch had concerns about the workshop. If we're trying to go for this other grant also, he was concerned the budget request was too high. If we take out the money for the workshop, that brings it back down to an amount that seems more reasonable.

3. Motion To Approve The FY2022 Budget Proposal

Motion passed, 5-1. Paddock and Nagel were absent. Seggebruch was a Nay.

RESULT: APPROVED [5 TO 1]

MOVER: Judy Panozzo

SECONDER: John Kiefner

AYES: Vasko, Galik, Panozzo, McCollum, Kiefner

NAYS: Seggebruch

ABSENT: Paddock, Nagel

10. COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION

None.

11. ANNOUNCEMENTS

None.

12. ADJOURNMENT

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